Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Fall Edible Seed Sowing

This SeedChat we talked about what to plant in your edible garden in the fall. To read the transcript in chronological order, read this from the bottom up, after clicking through the jump break (read more link) when on the homepage of the blog. SeedChat is hosted byhttp://mrbrownthumb.blogspot.com and http://www.theseedbank.net
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   That's it for #seedchat tonight everybody! Thanks for stopping by! -9:00 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I would imagine clover or rye are the cheapest - haven't bought it in a few years, not sure what current prices are! #seedchat -8:59 PM Sep 5th, 2012
      I am turning into a pumpkin. Time for me to say good night. And thank you for a great #seedchat -8:57 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Nice! I have a ton of white Dutch clover I'm using to replace the back yard grass and was thinking of using that. #seedchat -8:57 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Why, I just attended a soil academy today for that very purpose. (Yes, that was its real name!) #seedchat -8:57 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   What's the cheapest ground cover I could use this fall? #SeedChat -8:56 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    For me winter rye is ideal & can also grow inside as cat grass. #seedchat -8:56 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     So there! :-) Love this exchange of info #seedchat -8:55 PM Sep 5th, 2012





    I don't get them often, but it's nothing else it could have been. #seedchat -8:54 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     I don't have damp soil (rather dry) and good microorganisms, so Yay, I don't need it!#seedchat -8:53 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I've been thinking about this too!#seedchat -8:52 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I'm SO GLAD I got away from the deer I had in Nelson. Impossible to even try to fight them. #seedchat-8:52 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I was a computer science/sci fi geek before I became a hippie, organic farmer type. #seedchat -8:51 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    They ate em RAW! Whole, right off the vine. Raccoons & groundhogs take a bite and leave the rest laying there. #bastards #seedchat -8:51 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Good link! I have cool, damp soil, so there's another key. #seedchat -8:50 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   LOL! RT :  #SeedChat get the dogs their own twitter accounts #seedchat -8:49 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Turns out a lot of seed savers are Dr Who/Torchwood fans. I think it's the general level of dorkiness we all have. #seedchat -8:49 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Mixed results using pea inoculant.http://t.co/LsEDttBp #seedchat -8:49 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Damn them! Evil bastards. They MUST be good! #seedchat -8:48 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Good to know I'm among fellow Torchwood fans! #Seedchat-8:48 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Also, the deer ate the 'Black Pears' again!#seedchat -8:48 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     #SeedChat get the dogs their own twitter accounts -8:47 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Good reason! #seedchat -8:46 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     Torchwood = fine but neither Will Smith nor TLJ is descending on me any time soon, thankyouverymuch! #seedchat -8:46 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   RT : For those in warmer/west coast climates, info and handy chart from West Coast Seeds:http://t.co/ZRpPcMcr (.pdf) #seedchat -8:45 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I'd never heard of it before this year. #seedchat -8:45 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I can still hope though, right?#seedchat -8:45 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I have a limited amount of sun and it goes for tomatoes. #seedchat -8:45 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   For those in warmer/west coast climates, here's a ton of info and handy chart from West Coast Seeds:http://t.co/Uhq2WcPd (.pdf) #seedchat -8:45 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     I doubt Torchwood will step in. #seedchat -8:44 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   I'm another one of those who has never used an inoculant to grow peas and beans. I think I may have to start next year. #SeedChat -8:43 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    If  doesn't show up next week we'll send out the search party. Hopefully we won't get retconned #seedchat -8:42 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Give it a try! You might have a better crop. Inoculant has been harder to get the past few years tho. Has driven the $ up. #seedchat -8:41 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   mystery solved! RT : Ive always had low nitrogen soils and I dont fertilize a whole hell of a lot. #seedchat -8:41 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   I wonder when the Men in Black will descend upon because of the knowledge gained tonight.#seedchat -8:41 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    nitrogen-fixing Rhizobium is found in almost all soils. including in my soil Zone 5 #seedchat -8:41 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    How come you don't grow beans or peas? There's the real question! #seedchat -8:41 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   I've never used inoculant, but I've never had particularly good luck with peas or beans either. Maybe I should try it.#Seedchat -8:41 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    As I mentioned, I don't actually grow beans or peas. #seedchat -8:40 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Very true. I'm always trying to get the most I can, just so a have a good surplus of seed to give away.#seedchat -8:40 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I've always had low nitrogen soils and I don't fertilize a whole hell of a lot. #seedchat -8:40 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     Also, I'm not trying to optimize production; I'm only growing for me. #seedchat -8:39 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    That must be it - it's a conspiracy!#seedchat -8:39 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Well, maybe everyone is doing it and just isn't telling me. #seedchat -8:38 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     If your soil is low in N, and you don't over fertilize, the innoculated ones will do better.#seedchat -8:38 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I have grown peas once and they were fine, come to think of it, but I don't fertilize. #seedchat -8:38 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    The test I did was in a cooler climate - zone 6. #seedchat -8:38 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     Adding fertilizer to the soil prevents nodules from forming on beans and peas. Fact.#seedchat -8:37 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   RT : Heres a handy list of edibles to plant in fall, and how long theyll take to mature:http://t.co/ma9WbDGZ #seedchat -8:37 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     wonder if inoculant for beans needed in cold climates? I've never heard of it for home gardeners here. #seedchat -8:37 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Interesting! Did a comparison one year - grew inoculated vs. non- right next to each other. Inoculated did better. #seedchat -8:37 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   RT : Here's a handy list of edibles to plant in fall, and how long they'll take to mature:http://t.co/NtySHsgu #seedchat -8:36 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Thanks. Love horses and dogs, but I won't go to convention to see them. Mind you I don't go to fashion shows either... #seedchat -8:32 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I'm a kale hater myself. I grow it for the mutt and the man who both like it! #seedchat -8:31 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I don't wanna mess with inoculant, personally. #seedchat -8:31 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   It's interesting too! RT : #seedchat is more important anyway.#seedchat -8:30 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   I'm going to do my beets and snow peas this weekend - I might take  's lead and plant some others indoors.#seedchat -8:30 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Heard about groundhog radish as ground cover today but it's one of the TM BS seeds. #seedchat -8:30 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Must duck out now for the kiddies. Were promised 'puter time. Will catch the transcript. See ya! #seedchat-8:30 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I guess you either like kale or you don't. Grew up eating kale...Love it. #seedchat -8:30 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    #seedchat is more important anyway. #seedchat -8:29 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    The inoculant starts the N-fixing nodules on legumes. Soil might have it. By adding inouclant you can be sure. #seedchat -8:29 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Yeah... I've tried. I'm sure I'll acquire a taste for it. Eventually. Somehow. #seedchat -8:29 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    LOL. We should steal that for seed savers. #seedchat -8:29 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Some American dog and pony show from what I gather. I'm not even sure what these national conventions are for? #seedchat -8:28 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    That's allowed then ;) #seedchat -8:27 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I did. I only need about 8lbs of seed and a bag of inoculant. #seedchat -8:27 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    What convention? #seedchat -8:26 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    No, I'm trying to grab the transcript as the chat goes along. #SeedChat -8:26 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Don't tell me everybody is all tied up with the convention tonight? I'm looking at you  #seedchat -8:25 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Did you see the raw seeds "requires Pea Vetch or Garden Combination Inoculant"? #seedchat-8:25 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Cute RT : PS: This is the shirt that I am wearing.#seedchat http://t.co/EKf9Dg0B #seedchat -8:25 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Sorry for the late start. Wrestling with my website :-) #seedchat -8:25 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   PS: This is the shirt that I am wearing. #seedchathttp://t.co/9EBaYR1m -8:24 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     Whenever I see "clover" or "vetch" I run screaming. I know they are different, but damn.#seedchat -8:24 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Good to know - adding to list of 'must try'. Thanks! #seedchat -8:24 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Good, I'll be looking for a nitrogen fixer.#seedchat -8:24 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Once you cook kale, it's great. I use in in soup and stir-fries. Becomes sweet when heated. Promise #seedchat -8:23 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Nice! RT : A great article from Mother Earth News on when and what to plant for the fall:http://t.co/MLsbJRPw #seedchat -8:22 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    http://t.co/ylZ0pp3r is what I was going to use. #seedchat -8:21 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Thanks! RT : A great article from Mother Earth News on when and what to plant for the fall:http://t.co/iEbS8Bof #seedchat -8:21 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    They are a larger carrot,#asadvertised #seedchat -8:21 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   My dog does the same :-) RT : Someone wants me to ignore #seedchat and pay her more attention http://t.co/hbMivfev #seedchat -8:21 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    red clover is a good one and pretty :-) adds nitrogen to the soil also. #seedchat -8:21 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Oh, yes, I agree completely. It looks fabulous. Taste, not so much. #seedchat -8:21 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   RT : A great article from Mother Earth News on when and what to plant for the fall: http://t.co/cZhmnQZd#seedchat -8:20 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   A great article from Mother Earth News on when and what to plant for the fall: http://t.co/cZhmnQZd #seedchat -8:20 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I have planted Kale every year. Looks fabulous in any type of garden. #seedchat -8:19 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    For the eating. #seedchat -8:19 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Nice. I'll have to get my hands on some of those. #seedchat -8:19 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    What size are the Deep Purples?#seedchat -8:19 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    The taste is excellent and they are Totally. Solid. Purple. Very sweet, no bitterness. #seedchat -8:18 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Why do you need courage for kale?#seedchat -8:18 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Cole crops indoors - we've still had 90s/70s - better germination indoors. #seedchat -8:18 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   One of these days I'll work up the courage to plant kale. On the fence about chard. I don't know if I want chard this fall yet. #seedchat -8:17 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I have a seed mill nearby. Just wondering what to sow for a tomato bed. #seedchat -8:17 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Totally solid purple?! Good to know! How'd they taste? #seedchat -8:16 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Mine stayed all through winter, and that was when I was in zone 6. Granted the snow ended up covering most of it... #seedchat -8:16 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Oh, can report on Territorial's 'Deep Purple' carrots. As advertised. Good grower. SOLID purple. Could use it as a dye. #seedchat -8:15 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Are you starting those ones indoors?#seedchat -8:15 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Good point! Is winter rye like winter wheat--it spouts in fall but stays through winter? #seedchat -8:15 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    There are seed mixes available online and probably at your local coop or garden center for winter cover crops. #seedchat -8:15 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    How can you say no to that face?! My dog is casually ignoring me. #seedchat -8:14 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I tilled it in. I didn't want it to go to seed!#seedchat -8:13 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   #seedchat  cute. -8:13 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Did you till it under in spring or keep it for weed suppression during the season? #seedchat -8:13 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    In the ground, beets, and spinach. In containers, carrots and chard. Seed starts, Broc, Caul, Cabbage, Kale. #seedchat -8:13 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    You are ON IT. Do your carrots mature in time, or do you harvest them as babies? #seedchat -8:13 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Someone wants me to ignore #seedchat and pay her more attention http://t.co/o6p5gjvk -8:12 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I've planted winter rye before - was good, kept the weeds down some. #seedchat -8:12 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   RT : #Seedchat starts in about 10 mins! Come join us for a talk on sowing cool hardy edibles for fall/early winter eating. -8:11 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I have it on in the background. I bet he doesn't come on until 9pm CST like Michelle did last night.#seedchat -8:11 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   I've got broccoli, beets, carrots, cauliflower, and cabbage in ground from seed and sowed lettuces 2 days ago.#seedchat -8:11 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I'm watching To Have And To Have Not - strange talking about seeds with Bogart talking at the same time. #seedchat -8:11 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   I'm toying with planting a winter cover crop on my veggie bed. Anyone done this? What did you plant? #seedchat -8:11 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    He's not on yet. #seedchat -8:10 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Yay for #seedchat Although, maybe I should turn on Bill at the DNC in the background. -8:10 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   What's everybody got in the ground for their fall and winter crops already? #seedchat -8:10 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Hey! Glad you could make it. #seedchat -8:09 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    It's fall-ish during the morning here, the rest of the time it's still pretty warm. Supposed to be 27 tomorrow! #seedchat -8:09 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   #seedchat Hello, everyone. -8:09 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I just sowed mine. We'll see if I can get the drainage hole in the pot from leaking long enough to grow it. #seedchat -8:09 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I'm glad to be back. #Seedchat -8:08 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   It's very fall-ish here. It's like you can smell the cooler air. Everything is 2 weeks ahead. #seedchat -8:08 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I'm on the fence with watercress - makes a great fall planting though. I might give it another go in a few weeks #seedchat -8:07 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Welcome     to #SeedChat -8:07 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   With it being 106˚ yesterday and 109˚today, I just don't feel like it's fall planting time. #seedchat -8:07 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   We're crashin the system! RT : Twitter, Tweetdeck, TweetChat, and Hootsuite always seem to have problems on Weds. #seedchat -8:07 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Glad you could make it this week! #seedchat-8:07 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   I went and got a pot for a water garden so I could grow a lot of watercress. Small obsession. #seedchat -8:06 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Hey, how are you? We got some rain this week too. #seedchat -8:06 PM Sep 5th, 2012
     Good to see you two! #seedchat-8:06 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Twitter, Tweetdeck, TweetChat, and Hootsuite always seem to have problems on Weds. #seedchat -8:05 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Hello #seedchat! I'm finally here. Crazy busy lately, I missed last week. #tweetchat -8:05 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Good evening, all #seedchat -8:05 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   It rained--yesterday and today! Oh, hi everyone! :)#seedchat -8:05 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   There we go. #seedchat I can see you. -8:05 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Get this - my first tomato is JUST RIPENING NOW! It seems almost insane to think about fall sowing! #seedchat -8:05 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Maybe there's a conspiracy against us with Hootsuite. #seedchat -8:04 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I updated my profile today including a new, simple background. #seedchat -8:04 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I haven't sown fall seeds yet either. My container garden is still filled with summer plants setting seeds.#seedchat -8:04 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   What's with the no results found for #seedchaton my hootsuite dash? #fail -8:04 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    It was 109˚F and dry today. #seedchat-8:03 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    New avatar, eh? #seedchat -8:03 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    Good to see you! How's the weather down there? #seedchat -8:02 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Hello, everyone, from Zone 8a in South Arkansas.#seedchat -8:01 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   RT : Hey seedsters, welcome to #seedchat! Tonight we're talking sowing your fall/winter edible crops! -8:01 PM Sep 5th, 2012
    I totally did not sow my fall seeds yet, even though I meant to last weekend! This weekend I WILL DO IT.#seedchat -8:00 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Hey seedsters, welcome to #seedchat! Tonight we're talking sowing your fall/winter edible crops! -8:00 PM Sep 5th, 2012
   Hello #SeedChat peeps. How is the week going in your garden? -8:00 PM Sep 5th, 2012
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